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Old 23rd October 2021, 12:50 AM
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Here was one, from toDay (here, #39)

The bit that bothered me



"If we're right, wolves can switch things up if they are close"

Sounded like it should have read "if we're wrong..."
I think the original makes more sense. If we’re wrong, wolves just sit back and enjoy watching us mismaroon. If we’re right, and have a wolf in sight, the wolf team can pile onto the closest town player at the last minute. That’s how I read it anyway.
i believe i forgot a t in can't

i noticed it after i posted but thought the gist of the message was clear anyway lol
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Old 23rd October 2021, 01:07 AM
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Hey Meeko, can you talk to me about Lightfoot?

I honestly think you're town, but you being off LF is the bigger danger. Mostly because LF is the scum I'm most sure of rn.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 01:07 AM
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That "But" was more a "Please work with me" not a "I'm starting to suspect you."

I honestly think N2 and several other things just don't make sense from scum perspective, which makes you lock town.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 03:38 AM
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1- I don’t think Meeko made up the mask
2- I’ve seen recruitment happen all ways.

Town to scum

Town to Mason
Anyone to 3rd party

Remember we never got a definition of what “Dante Sower of Chaos” means. To me, it means that something out of the ordinary was associated with the role.

So can a Town player be turned to Scum with the mask, sure. That’s my best guess. We started with 4 Scum, and Meeko was converted to a 5th.
Scum to town


How does this work? Do remaining scum get a brand new board after the previous scum converts to town?

It was on another site that was dedicated to mafia, and had all kinds of programming to it.

As I said it was usually lost scum that didn’t have a chat board and didn’t know their partners that could be converted.

There was no day chat for anyone aside from the main chat. So each night you were placed by the software into the appropriate chats.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 03:49 AM
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Reading through, I kept seeing people asking him why he voted for Dante, and he said "I already gave reasons" but at the point where they were asking, he'd only said "not for the typo" and "this is a serious vote." He did come back with reasons but only after being asked a few times, and sending people back. I think somebody, possibly TexCat, called him on it in the thread.

Please keep in mind that I wasn't there D1 and was just reading in catchup mode and there were like 1400 posts. Reading over his ISO it sounded like he was dodging, at least for awhile.
The quoted posts are in order, he gave reasons the very first time he was asked, and then referred back to them each successive time. He could have linked to his reasoning, and the fact that he didn’t mention Dante in that post may have lead some players to miss it (I was actually posting to support your accusation but accidentally came across the post with the reasoning).

I was one who missed his reasonings, and even on your quotes, it wasn’t a very obvious explanation and needed more explanation.

I was very frustrated with him, and that’s why my early votes were for him. For naked votes, and not explaining them.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 07:19 AM
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D6 Vote Count

Lightfoot (6): Colby(7), Meeko(9,226), Guiri(10), bladescape(20), SilverJan(55,122), TexCat(60), SilverJan(201), Visorslash(240)

Dizzymrslizzy (3): Colby(7), Meeko(9), Guiri(10,71), TexCat(60), Visorslash(171-240)

Vanta Black (3): Colby(7), Lightfoot(77), SilverJan(85)
Visorslash (3): Volfoni(23,24), Colby(129), Vanta Black(212), Meeko(224)

Colby (1): Visorslash(170-240), Bufftabby(172)

Not voting (2): Dizzy, Volfoni

Any townie with votes from another townie is susceptible to a scum pile on. I don't like Colby's multi-votes. And I'm almost positive that Dizzy is scum, but I will follow our one mod-confirmed townie with my only vote.

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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:02 AM
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... but I will follow our one mod-confirmed townie with my only vote.
[unvote] DizzyMrsLizzy [unvote]
And this is our fundamental problem.

Texcat doesn't want to vote more than one person, and, at the end of the day, that is more of an issue than my wanting a vote on Dizzy [And thus removing a vote from Lightfoot] to be lead to a successful maroon.



For all of the good it won't do, regardless of their alignment.

If we have people that want to constrain themselves to ADDITIONAL LIMITS, then anything we "talk about" is worthless.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:17 AM
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I'm feeling really torn here.

a) What am I missing that's so compelling about Lightfoot? Is there something more than low posting (which I believe due to RL), and a late Dafoe claim?

b) I do think Colby is the scummiest Dafoe (hence my vote there), and the fact that we don't have more movement to there (i.e. scum moving there, based on numbers) bolsters that belief for me. I'm keeping my vote there because I believe in it.

BUT

c) The general consensus is to follow Jan's leadership here, since she's the closest thing we have to confirmed Town. ~Town does not necessarily = better scum-hunting, but I don't know a better solution than Follow The Leader.

In the interest of c),



even though I'd feel a lot better about it if a) wasn't in play
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:20 AM
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:22 AM
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I think this is probably for the best today. (Hit send too soon there)
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:32 AM
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Why has the narrative been "Meeko, you've voted for u players, and we only have 5 scum, why are you voting townies?!"

And Not

"Meeko, over there, voting for 7 players. That way he knows that he has at least voted for two scum!"

And related to this, unfortunately in hindsight, votes without any rationale given on them, also bit us in the ass.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:39 AM
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Why has the narrative been "Meeko, you've voted for u players, and we only have 5 scum, why are you voting townies?!"

And Not

"Meeko, over there, voting for 7 players. That way he knows that he has at least voted for two scum!"

And related to this, unfortunately in hindsight, votes without any rationale given on them, also bit us in the ass.

Meeko, because you have no accountability for your posts.

A). You are voting townies and don’t care.
B). There’s no guarantee you are voting any scum. I could vote for The 7 remaining Townies accidentally and if we weren’t spoiled that Jan was town.
C). There’s no accountability in your vote. When you only have one vote you have to verbalize why one person is more scummy than others. Voting 7 players gives you too much leeway to say oops, but look maybe one of the other 6 people I voted were scum.

There are ONLY negatives voting 7 players, there’s not one single positive out there.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:39 AM
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And because you are still insisting you are hero status. Nope. Still the top of my scum list

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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:42 AM
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Just fixing tags.

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Old 23rd October 2021, 08:57 AM
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Sorry, got no time this week end (moving out to a new house on tuesday morning).



glglgl


itt: in the thread

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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:19 AM
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Lightfoot (10): Colby(7), Meeko(9,226), Guiri(10), bladescape(20), SilverJan(55,122), TexCat(60), SilverJan(201), Visorslash(240), Meeko(257), Bufftabby(258), Dizzy(264), Volfoni(265)

Vanta Black (3): Colby(7), Lightfoot(77), SilverJan(85)
Visorslash (3): Volfoni(23,24), Colby(129), Vanta Black(212), Meeko(224)

Dizzymrslizzy(2): Colby(7), Meeko(9), Guiri(10,71), TexCat(60,256), Visorslash(171,240)

Colby (1): Visorslash(170,240), Bufftabby(172)

Meeko (1): Dizzy(263)

Not voting (0):
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:20 AM
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It seems the die is cast, if Lightfoot is scum, there are at least three scum bussing her. Only Vanta has not voted her.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:28 AM
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It seems the die is cast, if Lightfoot is scum, there are at least three scum bussing her. Only Vanta has not voted her.

It gives me a little pause there have been no shenanigans today. Why would scum give up so easily when they are ahead?
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:34 AM
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THE VOICE OF JOHN CLEESE, FOR SOME REASON: Tick tock, tick tock. Ninety minutes remaining!
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:38 AM
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Ugh, I just did not see the case on LightFoot, and that wagon formed quickly, even before Silverjan made her decision.

It looks like I will be driving at EoD so no shenanigans from me.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:43 AM
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It seems the die is cast, if Lightfoot is scum, there are at least three scum bussing her. Only Vanta has not voted her.

It gives me a little pause there have been no shenanigans today. Why would scum give up so easily when they are ahead?
There are still 75? minutes left in the Day (has the time changed?), but the whole point of follow-the-doc was to avoid shenanigans and take control of the maroon. I expect and hope Lightfoot will flip scum, but there are still 4 more to find and it’s not as if we’re highly coordinated and have a consensus on who those 4 are. Forcing a single mis-maroon over the next 4 Days may look very achievable for them.

And if we’re wrong, we’ll, that’s always a possibility, but we tried.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:45 AM
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Ugh, I just did not see the case on LightFoot, and that wagon formed quickly, even before Silverjan made her decision.

It looks like I will be driving at EoD so no shenanigans from me.
The wagon including the Doc, two masons, Meeko and me? Can it get townie than that?
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:46 AM
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Urgh, I hate this. I have no more info than any other Townie and if we lose I feel as guilty as hell.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:46 AM
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All the Dafoes are voting me.
There be Scum.
Scummiest Dafoes= Colby and Visor

I don't feel like I have a hope in hell- Scum are helping to take me out.
The game has been a nice distraction to the RL whirlwind- but I didn't help y'all as much as I would have liked to


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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:57 AM
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All the Dafoes are voting me.
There be Scum.
Scummiest Dafoes= Colby and Visor

I don't feel like I have a hope in hell- Scum are helping to take me out.
The game has been a nice distraction to the RL whirlwind- but I didn't help y'all as much as I would have liked to


Yes, I can see that. I have a feeling I have made a huge mistake here. Oh well, it will be over soon and I can relax again
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Old 23rd October 2021, 09:59 AM
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All the Dafoes are voting me.
There be Scum.
Scummiest Dafoes= Colby and Visor

I don't feel like I have a hope in hell- Scum are helping to take me out.
The game has been a nice distraction to the RL whirlwind- but I didn't help y'all as much as I would have liked to
[vote] Visorslash [/vote

[vote] Colby [/vote
Yes, I can see that. I have a feeling I have made a huge mistake here. Oh well, it will be over soon and I can relax again
If you feel you have made a mistake you have an hour to consider a solution.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:02 AM
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I'm feeling really torn here.

a) What am I missing that's so compelling about Lightfoot? Is there something more than low posting (which I believe due to RL), and a late Dafoe claim?

b) I do think Colby is the scummiest Dafoe (hence my vote there), and the fact that we don't have more movement to there (i.e. scum moving there, based on numbers) bolsters that belief for me. I'm keeping my vote there because I believe in it.

BUT

c) The general consensus is to follow Jan's leadership here, since she's the closest thing we have to confirmed Town. ~Town does not necessarily = better scum-hunting, but I don't know a better solution than Follow The Leader.

In the interest of c),



even though I'd feel a lot better about it if a) wasn't in play
I agree we should kill Colby

Too late now

And the issue was not that Jan knows more but to counteract the wolves voting bloc

Esp given how hard it is for people to be around to organise things given timezones etc
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:11 AM
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Realistically it was unlikely we won anyway if one of Lightfoot Colby or dizzy were villagers anyway

Hope lfoot flips wolf but shrug

If we're wrong GG all wp and thanks for hosting story
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:12 AM
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Probably going to be something like volfoni guiri meeko Vanta dizzy and we were toast thx to not hitting one early/focused on Wolfy villas too much
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:14 AM
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Well, good luck everyone I'm going back to bed

Think Vanta is almost certainly a wolf at least

Probably should've looked into volfoni clearing a bunch of the Poe when that made him likely a wolf

Live and learn
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:16 AM
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So why wouldn’t you vote Colby if you feel him?

Colby isn’t at the top of my list, but if you feel LightFoot is wrong are you just voting her because Jan told you to?
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:17 AM
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Seriously The guy above me can't be Scum. ?Are we in the same game??
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:17 AM
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NETA hat was about visor
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:18 AM
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So why wouldn’t you vote Colby if you feel him?

Colby isn’t at the top of my list, but if you feel LightFoot is wrong are you just voting her because Jan told you to?

I’m legitimately just trying to understand you Visor. I am completely baffled by a lot
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:19 AM
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:20 AM
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All the Dafoes are voting me.
There be Scum.
Scummiest Dafoes= Colby and Visor

I don't feel like I have a hope in hell- Scum are helping to take me out.
The game has been a nice distraction to the RL whirlwind- but I didn't help y'all as much as I would have liked to


Yes, I can see that. I have a feeling I have made a huge mistake here. Oh well, it will be over soon and I can relax again
I'm here and willing to follow if you make a change. I don't feel good about it either.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:21 AM
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I’m fine with Lightfoot, Colby, Vanta or Dizzy. Stuck with Visor, Volfoni and Bufftabby.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:22 AM
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So why wouldn’t you vote Colby if you feel him?

Colby isn’t at the top of my list, but if you feel LightFoot is wrong are you just voting her because Jan told you to?
Because as I've said 59 fucking times this phase the point is to have all our votes on the same wagon so the wolves can't shift at EOD to win the game
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:22 AM
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Yes, I can see that. I have a feeling I have made a huge mistake here. Oh well, it will be over soon and I can relax again
I'm here and willing to follow if you make a change. I don't feel good about it either.
So who else? Apart from Colby and Meeko?
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:23 AM
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Yes, I can see that. I have a feeling I have made a huge mistake here. Oh well, it will be over soon and I can relax again
I'm here and willing to follow if you make a change. I don't feel good about it either.
It's too late, many people are not here

It is what it is (and I won''t really feel bad if Lightfoot is a villager given what they just posted lol)
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:23 AM
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So why wouldn’t you vote Colby if you feel him?

Colby isn’t at the top of my list, but if you feel LightFoot is wrong are you just voting her because Jan told you to?
Because as I've said 59 fucking times this phase the point is to have all our votes on the same wagon so the wolves can't shift at EOD to win the game

Okay well there’s a bunch of us around and willing to talk about changing including Jan.

I dont understand why you are getting so angry and cursing at me.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:24 AM
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(this is also why I wanted us to vote the one wagon because it is very hard to have everyone around with these very awkward phase timings

We would be feeling worried and bad about any wagon at this point in the game fwiw
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:25 AM
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I am not angry I am rolling my eyes at being completely misunderstood by most of the players in this game when that is usually a rarity
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:27 AM
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I'm here and willing to follow if you make a change. I don't feel good about it either.
So who else? Apart from Colby and Meeko?
At this point? visorslash
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:27 AM
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At a count there are me, dizzy, Lightfoot, guiri silver and buff

That makes six, all we would do is split wagons and then if we are wrong on one the wolves just pounce on the other
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:28 AM
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6 out of 12 votes can make a difference Cant it?
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:30 AM
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(this is also why I wanted us to vote the one wagon because it is very hard to have everyone around with these very awkward phase timings

We would be feeling worried and bad about any wagon at this point in the game fwiw
This is true. Lylo nerves and doubts.
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:30 AM
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Eg let's say we all unvoted Lightfoot and voted Colby

Wagons would be what something like idk 6:6:3

If all three are wolves great

If one isn't, wolves can likely just unvote and vote one specific candidate

We should stay the course, it's too late to have shenanigans and this is the only way we can avoid split wagons
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Old 23rd October 2021, 10:31 AM
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6 out of 12 votes can make a difference Cant it?
No, not if one or more of of us is scum.
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