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Old 31st January 2014, 01:36 PM
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Am I reading this right and they aren't going to let those pups go until FIVE MONTHS FROM NOW? What the hell?
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Old 31st January 2014, 07:47 PM
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That has to be a mistakenly old ad - look at the green in the background. No part of Ohio has looked anything like that since September.

From the dog's point of view, older is better.
From my point of view, already getting past the nippy teething small-bladdered puppy stage of life is better.
From my daughter's point of view, well hell, she'd take anything with four legs I'd let into the house. But she'd plotz over a fluff ball. So I'm flexible.
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Old 31st January 2014, 10:38 PM
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Maybe they meant Jan 29th? Also it says puppy mill but it doesn't seem like a puppy mill story I suppose they could have forgotten to take their ad down, which would be really mean. Someone should call and ask. Solfy could, but she has that problem with her flippers.
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Old 5th February 2014, 09:19 AM
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FYI, there is a litter of purebred English springer spaniel puppies in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, born December 21, that still has three males available. (I have been watching this litter on Facebook, but we want a female available in spring/summer, and we've already spoken to a local breeder about one of their upcoming litters.) See "Superior Springers" on Facebook if you're interested.
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Old 5th February 2014, 11:50 AM
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is that a kennel?
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Old 7th February 2014, 12:28 PM
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Filled out an application with the rescue org (a registered 501c3 that appears to be on the up and up and is a 2hr drive away).
Now to go home and explain to my husband how we need her (and she needs us) even if it's 12°F outside.

Meanwhile, Brother got a 9wk old beautiful brindle boxer/bully mix yesterday.
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Old 7th February 2014, 01:12 PM
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I am ready to sign the The Solf Family Needs This Dog petition!
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Old 7th February 2014, 02:19 PM
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What a cutie! If you get her, you must name her Tootsie!
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Old 7th February 2014, 04:03 PM
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I told the family about Brother's dog. Eldest said, "I can't wait until spring!" Husband said, "Why? You're not getting a dog." I said, "Um. . . about that. . . " and showed them the pup I applied for. Husband went in the kitchen to do the dishes without saying anything. Then he stuck his head back in and said, "So how long until we hear back from the rescue?"

Eldest didn't quite get what I meant when I said I filled out an application for her. When I explained myself, she fell over giggling. We've spent the rest of the evening debating names, although I cautioned her that there's a good chance someone got an application in before us, so she shouldn't get her hopes up. Puppies go fast in rescue.

The short list so far: Beatrice, Luna, Ivy, Layla (this was almost Zoe's name) or Lilly.
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Old 7th February 2014, 05:46 PM
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I like Beatrice, but three syllables is awkward when you're calling for her. Of the names you listed, I like Layla. Yes, I know you didn't ask, but there you go. If she was going to be my dog, her name would be Gladys.
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Old 7th February 2014, 06:59 PM
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Beatrice is a Lemony Snicket thing. Eldest is a huge fan. It's also a running joke/catch phrase around here lately, as in yelling, "Put a sock in it, Beatrice!" at a crying baby or yammering kid. But yeah, it doesn't necessarily roll off the tongue.

I've gone from, "Eh, this one looks worth actually applying for" to "OMG I wish they'd call us already! Want! Puppy!" over the course of the evening.
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Old 7th February 2014, 07:05 PM
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I don't know from Lemony Snicket. Early in my adolescence I dated a girl named Beatrice, and everyone called her B.T.
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Old 7th February 2014, 07:10 PM
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Pointless hijack because a) I'm bored* b) it's my thread and I'll hijack if I want to. Lemony Snicket is the pen name of Daniel Handler, who wrote "A Series of Unfortunate Events" and is now working on a prequel series. (we went to a book signing of his last fall; it was a great time) Each book is dedicated "To Beatrice" with some sort of humorous note. It makes her into a mystery character, with hints to her identity in the final book of the series.

*Not bored bored, but too tired to knit and not tired enough to go to bed yet. Or rather Swimmy isn't tired enough yet, having napped long enough at dinner time to completely screw up her sleep schedule. As usual. Silly girl.
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Old 8th February 2014, 05:28 PM
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Lilly. Lilly lilly lilly.

If you're undecided on the name, pick "Lilly"

I like your husband.

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Old 8th February 2014, 06:23 PM
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I was surprised it's in the running, because Lilly was the name of the 1st hamster (that met a very bad end). Eldest likes the name enough to recycle it. (besides, we didn't have Lilly the hamster long enough to make much of an association)

Called the vet this a.m. to release the records. No word from the rescue org. I know from FB stalking that there are at least one, possibly two other people who put in apps for her before I did. Don't know what their decision criteria are. Sent an e-mail letting them know the records are released and asking about the criteria. No answer from their posted phone number, and no mechanism for message leaving.
Bah.
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Old 10th February 2014, 09:10 AM
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Last night Eldest was seriously considering the name Esme.

Good news: Talked to the rescue woman! We chatted for about 10 min.
Bad news: Their policy on mutiple apps is 1st (appropriate application) come, 1st served.
Good news: So they could decide that the apps that were in before mine aren't a good home for the dog.
Neutral news: She said they used to get a lot more cavachons in, but lately there haven't been as many. She gets a lot of people adopting from my area. I suspect it's because a) she's a legit rescue and not another mill broker fronting as a rescue (her dogs tend to have physical problems that are incompatible with looking cute in a pet shop window but not incompatible with being a lovely companion animal), b) there aren't a lot of rescues around here that get puppies and/or young dogs with any sort of regularity and c) it looks like she's really rural.
Our conversation gave me no indication of which way she'd swing on my application, but she did remember that I said I was only a 2hr drive away. I brought up that we've been waiting for the baby to be old enough to not be an issue, but I don't know if she considers 1.5 to be old enough to introduce a puppy or not.

Crossing fingers. I'll only know which way things have shaken out by watching the posting - if I don't get a call and the posting goes down, we're out of the running.


Oh - I used Neighbor as a personal reference. She was watching Swimmy today while Husband cleaned her driveway, so I told Husband to let her know she could be getting a phone call. She asked him if we were crazy, getting a puppy right now with 6" of snow on the ground. Husband said it wasn't his idea (I'm sure that's not the last time I'll hear that phrase), but that this is the sort of dog we've been looking for so we were pulling the trigger a little earlier than planned. But he said it with a grin in his voice.
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Old 11th February 2014, 02:50 PM
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No word. I have to assume that they've had time to check our refs and would have got back to me by now if we were in the lead.
Poop.

She's still listed, so that's good.
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Old 12th February 2014, 01:50 PM
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Old 12th February 2014, 03:11 PM
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Any word on the puppy Solfy?
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Old 12th February 2014, 04:49 PM
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Nada.

I just have to convince myself to believe what I told Eldest - if we don't get this dog, there will be others. Eventually.

Sexy dogs?
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Old 12th February 2014, 05:39 PM
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That's the one thing you can count on...there will always be puppies. There aren't enough homes for them all.
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Old 16th February 2014, 01:59 PM
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Ya know, Solfy, maybe I could ship you one...

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pet/4326958849.html

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Old 16th February 2014, 03:24 PM
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Oh gosh, I'd melt over the black and white one! What a beauty! I don't know that aussie/springer would fit with our available time now (sounds like a high energy combo), but a face like that would tempt me into trying it anyway. Thank goodness I'm safely ensconced on the other side of the country, pining for that cavachon, whose ad is STILL up on Petfinder, yet I have not heard from rescue people.

Am debating bothering the rescue woman again tomorrow just to see what the hold up is. I want to know if there's anything in our application that has knocked us out of consideration.
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Old 16th February 2014, 03:31 PM
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Persistence is a virtue, the worst they can do is say no and at least you're showing them that you're interested and patient enough to jump through hoops to give a dog a home. Plus, rescue people tend towards the flaky side, just sayin'...
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From what I've seen on the web and based on our phone conversation, she is 100% devoted to helping animals, but fed up with dealing with flaky people. She mentioned in particular people who make arrangements to pick a dog up then no show / no call. Then call up two weeks later and say, "Oh yeah. I know we said we were coming to get that dog Saturday, but we decided to get a different one instead, only that one turned out to be from a puppy mill so we passed on it. Can I still get a dog from you?" (NO.)

My concerns are that she feels Swimmy is too young, in which case I won't bother watching her listings anymore, or that she didn't like what she heard from the vet's office. I don't trust that the vet's records are an accurate reflection of the care we got for Zoe-dog, since they kept trying to get us to bring her in for an annual check up when she was long since dead. The discovery of her liver cancer and her same-night euthanasia happened at an affiliated emergency vet, though I know the two offices communicate because Regular Vet's Office sent us a condolence card.

There's also the possible issue that Resuce Woman may think we don't take care of our pets because I quit taking the cats to Regular Vet. I didn't like their constant upselling so the cats have been going elsewhere for vaccinations and check ups.
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Call the woman tomorrow and ask. Also, if she says she chose to home the dog with another applicant, ask if there was anything about your application that precluded you being the lucky family. If your regular vet gave you a bad recommendation, you need to know so you can put a contract out correct it, so it doesn't happen again with another application.
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Old 16th February 2014, 04:57 PM
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Exactly. I just don't trust them. The vet who owned the office when we started going there many years ago was good, but he sold out and I haven't liked the place since. A new dog would be going to a different vet.
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Old 17th February 2014, 01:58 AM
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Ya, the rescue woman won't mind your calling. I hope the rest of the stuff you mention has no affect on the decision. If some other lovely person has Lilly, that's cool, but if not, you should, ya?
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Foo. Talked to the rescue lady, and from the sounds of things it's a no-go because they feel Swimmy is too young of a child to have in a house with such a tiny puppy. They're not anti kid, just anti toddler/puppy combo. I can respect that, even if I disagree that it will be a problem in our household. They don't know that we aren't the sort of people who would let the toddler drag the pup around by her neck unsupervised; I understand that there are too many people who would. I reinforced that we are still interested if they change their mind but I respect that they're looking out for the best interest of the dog.



At least I know.

They have a lovely chocolate cocker spaniel boy that I thought about asking after, but my heart's just not in it at this point. Back to waiting and watching. Eldest will be so blue.
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Try a public shelter maybe - they don't have limits like that

OK, back to my Petfinder obsession
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Old 17th February 2014, 12:27 PM
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Try a public shelter maybe - they don't have limits like that
Neither do puppy mills or backyard breeders. Whatckjob rescue orgs who don't think anyone is good enough for their precious fur babies are exactly what drive people to impulse purchases at pet stores instead so they don't have to deal with this bullshit.

I might be slightly bitter at the moment.
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Old 17th February 2014, 02:06 PM
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These guys and gals are all in public shelters:
http://www.petharbor.com/pet.asp?uaid=WPHS.A183173 <<Anatolian Shepherd and Pug
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/27823934/ <<Spaniel mix Crikey he's cute!
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/28507166/ <Sheltie. I personally love Shelties
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/28539476/ <Brittany spaniel
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/27568404/ <<Curly tail and big earses in Akron
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/28346300/ <Adorable mystery in Harrisville, WV
Lord help me, this American Eskimo dog in Copley, OH is at a private rescue, but really . . http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/27555659/
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Old 17th February 2014, 04:12 PM
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Shelties can be weird. I have one. She isn't the most people friendly, especially around strangers and they try to "herd" groups of children. It can lead to nipping. I'm sure they aren't all like that, but every one I've met I wouldn't want as a childs dog. YMMV.
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Old 17th February 2014, 05:07 PM
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Aw hells no on the eskimo. The most annoying dog I've ever had the misfortune to live across the street from was one. I can still hear that dog's yipping in my nightmares.

My Zoe was a herder of small children, but she didn't nip them, she ran around them in ever-tightening circles. She'd nip the adults in the house, but only when the phone rang - it was game-on when she knew we'd be walking to answer it. We never did break her of that habit.

There's a rescue org over the OH border that's got a bevy of shih tzu / bichon crosses. I'm afraid a) they'd still be too small, b) they could be high strung and/or yippy, c) I'm only trying to find one now to fix my disappointment at the other one, which is the wrong reason and d) can't find out for certain if they're a legit rescue, though it appears they are. I need to step away from the search engine and wait until spring.
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I really like Bandit, the spaniel cross--he has that look about him that says he'd be all kinds of fun. He's also a great age, just under a year. That's old enough to be able to see his personality clearly but young enough to train no problem. That's a seriously adorable puppeh.
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Urg. I was really hoping this would be like tv and you'd get the pup. Sorry, Solfy.
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Foo. Talked to the rescue lady, and from the sounds of things it's a no-go because they feel Swimmy is too young of a child to have in a house with such a tiny puppy. They're not anti kid, just anti toddler/puppy combo. I can respect that, even if I disagree that it will be a problem in our household. They don't know that we aren't the sort of people who would let the toddler drag the pup around by her neck unsupervised; I understand that there are too many people who would. I reinforced that we are still interested if they change their mind but I respect that they're looking out for the best interest of the dog.
Story time: when I was a kid, we adopted a couple of dogs at a local shelter over the course of a few years. One died very young of cancer; another got "lost" (an insanely long story with a sad ending). My parents wanted a young dog and my youngest sister was a toddler. One of my elementary school classmates had lab/retriever puppies available. Through a series of miscommunications, they ended up being taken to the shelter even though my family had expressed an interest in one. The shelter wouldn't let us adopt the puppy we went to look at and fell in love with because my sister was "too young." Then, the classmate's dad who had surrendered the puppies tried to adopt her back out for us and he was denied because there was a young child in THAT household. Finally, a family friend who had no children went with my dad to the shelter and HE officially adopted the dog, then gave her to us. All because the shelter wouldn't let a family who wanted a puppy, have a puppy. That dog and my sister grew up together and were best pals, and we had the dog until she died at age 16.
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I really like Bandit, the spaniel cross--he has that look about him that says he'd be all kinds of fun. He's also a great age, just under a year. That's old enough to be able to see his personality clearly but young enough to train no problem. That's a seriously adorable puppeh.
I know, he's got me already

Peabody said it - 'every dog needs a boy'. I'll amend that to 'or a girl'. Not good to keep dogs out of homes with small people.
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Old 17th February 2014, 11:07 PM
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What's with the shelter orgs / rescues being so damn fussy?

We've go a Westhighland Terrier, that we adopted when he was about 6 months and my sprog had just started walking.

Wonderfully sturdy little shithead he is too.

Also - how about Miniture Schnauser? Another dog I like because he don't shed.

In any case - I also have a soft spot for Spaniels - and Staffy Terriers, and Collies....
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What's with the shelter orgs / rescues being so damn fussy?
My guess? Too many people turning in dogs because "we had a sprog and now we need to get rid of the dog." Or because they didn't teach the sprog not to harrass the dog and it nipped the kid. Or because they didn't socialize the dog with small children and when kids came around it freaked so the dog's got to go.

Another case of a small group of people ruining things for the rest of the world.

People want the dogs to be adopted, but there are only so many "perfect" homes for them to go to. They don't want to adopt a dog out only to have it returned in six months when things don't work out, but they have to balance that against not being able to find families for the dogs that meet their requirements.

The rescue woman said if Swimmy was older she'd have no problem with it. I said by that logic, the time Swimmy is old enough for us to get a dog the other girls will practically be moving out. She said she'd have no problem with us adopting a 1yr old dog, the advantage being that we would know if it's good with kids. I agree with that, but you know what I see in the adoptable dog listings? 1yr old dogs get put up for adoption for NOT being good with kids or cats or other problems. Logic and experience tells me that starting a puppy in a house with kids means the dog is more likely to be used to kids.

Can't win. Just gotta be patient.
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yea, it's silly. and a problem for backlogs of adoptable dogs.
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many older dogs are fine with kids. dogs are given up for all kinds of reasons.

Bandit is still available . . .
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He's cute, but he's not what we're looking for.

I know there are dogs given up who are good for kids, but I keep finding the cat chasers and kid-skittish.

I almost sent an e-mail to the place with the shih tzu/bichons tonight but my instincts told me not to.
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Old 18th February 2014, 04:09 PM
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Aw, look at Bandit's silly tongue!

Sorry this is so frustrating, Solfy. I am frustrated on your behalf, all the way over here.

The right dog for you will appear at the right time.

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Old 18th February 2014, 05:43 PM
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i wantz all teh goggies.
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Old 18th February 2014, 09:20 PM
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I was in this situation last year, but didn't have your defined shopping list. Hell, I just wanted a large-breed male puppy (preferably fluffy, but that was totally optional).

During that time frame, they all apparently disappeared from my hemisphere, or were at rescues who wanted $800.00 and required you to pass some Department-of-Justice-level background check, live on two fenced acres and made you sign a contract that you would enroll the dog in college. Color me a bit bitter here -- sorry. I got totally soured on rescues during this quest.

Long story short, we ended up buying an unpapered Golden Retriever from a very nice lady in a clean home with obviously well-loved animals for a fraction of the cost. I'd never had any experience with the breed, but he is awesome. Hey, the females don't get that big!

(Since that time, there have been about 300 other dogs up for adoption our local shelter that would have melted my heart. I want all the goggies too, stormie.)

I went into it with the same approach you did, Solfy. "It will happen when it's right." Sometimes, you have to get a little aggressive about it, is all.
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Old 19th February 2014, 10:03 AM
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Oh! So my love of fluff got the better of me and I e-mailed the org that has the zuchons. (finally found evidence that they are "real")
I asked what their policy on small kids is, and they responded back that we'd just have to be careful that the toddler doesn't manhandle the pup until it's grown, suggesting the use of play yards to keep the pup safe, etc.
Common sense! They haz it!
Sent them an app.

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Old 19th February 2014, 10:16 AM
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Old 19th February 2014, 10:23 AM
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Hrm. . . they responded to my app which indicates I'm looking for a small dog 1yr or under, the zuchon pups in particular, with "the dog is very tiny weighing 2lbs!" I told them I understand and want something that is 10-15lbs when it's grown, since my 50lb aussie was hard to travel with. (I'd take larger, but that's the estimate grown size of the pups in question) I'm not sure what they were getting at there.
Small puppy is small. Got it.
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Old 19th February 2014, 11:03 AM
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Just had a really good phone conversation.
Look who may be coming to our house.
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